tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7896529.post6562783415538149217..comments2023-10-21T09:15:42.314+00:00Comments on Mental excrement: It's time to stop taking Islam seriouslyMoominmamahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11750304448922417139noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7896529.post-76737276213141157792007-12-07T22:39:00.000+00:002007-12-07T22:39:00.000+00:00Khartoum is desperately trying to be the Jihad cap...Khartoum is desperately trying to be the Jihad capital and trying to act tough. Bin Laden and his cronies had conventions there before he had to hide his sorry ass in caves.<BR/><BR/>This political correctness bullsh*t is killing us. For f*ck sake give the Sudanese Government 1 f*cking hour to put her on a plane with a $100,000 severance package or we will create a new gigantic lake where the Blue and White Nile meet.<BR/><BR/>Can you believe that a little piece of crap government that has been supporting the genocide of it's non-muslim people in Darfur for years can threaten the Western World over a f*cking Teddy Bear.<BR/><BR/>Screw 'Em. Enough is enough...Blue Leader do you copy...you are good to go..acquire target and engage I repeat engage.<BR/><BR/>PPPPPUUUUULLLLLLAAAAMMMMM!!!<BR/><BR/>I feel like Chill Wills riding the Bomb down in Dr Strangelove. Gawddam that felt good.<BR/>I am so sick of this pussy footin around.<BR/><BR/>Patton was right. He was ready to take on the Ruskies in Berlin when they had the chance..instead we got the Cold War for 40 years.<BR/><BR/>This storm is coming..the longer we wait the worse it will be.Romeo Morningwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10826410608415260786noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7896529.post-39371033954714660942007-12-06T22:21:00.000+00:002007-12-06T22:21:00.000+00:00Holy Muhammed on a pogo-stick! I was expecting de...Holy Muhammed on a pogo-stick! I was expecting death threats, and instead I get ex-Muslims agreeing with me. Will wonders never cease? Maybe there's hope for the world after all...Moominmamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11750304448922417139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7896529.post-81803036429269295152007-12-06T22:17:00.000+00:002007-12-06T22:17:00.000+00:00Okay, try again...when i say piece i meant your po...Okay, try again...when i say piece i meant your post...<BR/>And well maybe the cartoon too !Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10059202019534212215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7896529.post-7206395306807659092007-12-06T22:16:00.000+00:002007-12-06T22:16:00.000+00:00I personally found the comic funny, and yes Im a m...I personally found the comic funny, and yes Im a muslim.. Well WAS..im taking an atheist holiday from islam for the past year and maybe for another couple of years ...<BR/><BR/>I can understand being upset with the whole thing, but there is a BIG difference between being upset and calling for someone's execution.<BR/><BR/>ERh, so what am i trying to say here, ....that I wish i can wirte that piece myself !Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10059202019534212215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7896529.post-37725040738350099642007-12-06T17:13:00.000+00:002007-12-06T17:13:00.000+00:00Rimshot: i'd love to, but keep in mind there's a d...Rimshot: i'd love to, but keep in mind there's a difference between anecdotes and anecdotal evidence.<BR/><BR/>Llewtrah: i'm not sure if you're addressing your comments to me or The Rimmer, but in case it's me, I just want to clarify that I hold Christianity in only slightly higher esteem than Islam. I'm well aware of its history and culture (grew up steeped in it). Don't think of me as anti-Muslim. Think of me as anti-religion.Moominmamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11750304448922417139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7896529.post-67653339442716960072007-12-06T16:59:00.000+00:002007-12-06T16:59:00.000+00:00Christianity doesn't exactly have an unstained con...Christianity doesn't exactly have an unstained conscience when it comes to peace (lack of) and tolerance (lack thereof). When you go to work in a Muslim country you really need to bone up on "what not to do" - you're in another country so for goodness sake abide by the laws of that country, don't expect them to make an exception for a foreigner. It was an overreaction and the Sudanese were criticised by Muslims of other countries (in case you missed that fact).llewtrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06056744147599140057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7896529.post-36061295529887621092007-12-05T16:03:00.000+00:002007-12-05T16:03:00.000+00:00I don't know why that posted twice, sorry.I don't know why that posted twice, sorry.Rimshothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704736086427919860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7896529.post-61821709578240574432007-12-05T16:02:00.001+00:002007-12-05T16:02:00.001+00:00"Except there is no evidence of any kind that the ..."Except there is no evidence of any kind that the afterlife even exists. But the present, physical life does. As such we should be far more concerned with the lives we're living now."<BR/><BR/>...and therein lies the problem. Perhaps one day you and I could discuss all the anecdotal and circumstantial evidence available and come to a consensus?Rimshothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704736086427919860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7896529.post-36541531352080976972007-12-05T16:02:00.000+00:002007-12-05T16:02:00.000+00:00"Except there is no evidence of any kind that the ..."Except there is no evidence of any kind that the afterlife even exists. But the present, physical life does. As such we should be far more concerned with the lives we're living now."<BR/><BR/>...and therein lies the problem. Perhaps one day you and I could discuss all the anecdotal and circumstantial evidence available and come to a consensus?Rimshothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704736086427919860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7896529.post-66711240981513011482007-12-04T17:32:00.000+00:002007-12-04T17:32:00.000+00:00i've finally decided that value judgments aren't s...i've finally decided that value judgments aren't such a bad thing. everyone else makes value judgments; why the hell shouldn't i?<BR/><BR/>part of what religion gets wrong is that (to take your sex/condom example) it demands the impossible (a society with perfect monogamy) and punishes the INEVITABLE result. It creates lose/lose situations.<BR/><BR/>You're right, it won't make a whit of difference in The End, because when we die that's it; we've blown our only shot. but it DOES make a difference in the Here And Now, and that's important. One of the other major problems with so many religions is that they're more concerned with the afterlife than the present life. Except there is no evidence of any kind that the afterlife even exists. But the present, physical life does. As such we should be far more concerned with the lives we're living now.Moominmamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11750304448922417139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7896529.post-35965452969897785192007-12-04T17:20:00.000+00:002007-12-04T17:20:00.000+00:00And yet another value judgement. "It plainly isn'...And yet another value judgement. "It plainly isn't" TO YOU. <BR/><BR/>I belive they're discuraging sex outsides the confines of a monagamous relationship (preferably marriage), if that was held to, there wouldn't be a need for condoms...<BR/><BR/>Ah, whatever...I'm not gonna change your mind so, yeah, they're all loonies who, in the end, won't make a whit of difference one way or the other and, according to your non-soul views, will be no worse for wear at the end.Rimshothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704736086427919860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7896529.post-14790774746876870402007-12-04T13:56:00.000+00:002007-12-04T13:56:00.000+00:00Yet again religion allows, indeed incites, otherwi...Yet again religion allows, indeed incites, otherwise good people to call for and commit awful acts against other human beings. <BR/><BR/>As rimshot says, the way all religions indoctrinate people from mere babies means that they feel it in their "soul" that this is the right thing to do - when it plainly isn't. <BR/><BR/>Whether it's inhumanly slaughtering animals (i.e. halal), discouraging the use of condoms in countries where aids is rife and killing thousands, calling for teachers to be put to death, or demonising women who have abortions after being brutally raped; religion has a lot to answer for.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7896529.post-85013297900713781982007-12-04T02:00:00.000+00:002007-12-04T02:00:00.000+00:00Actually there is very little if any difference be...Actually there is very little if any difference between one's worldview and what one "does with it". There may be a vast difference between the worldview one CLAIMS to have, but if it doesn't match what they do, then they're just lying to themselves.<BR/><BR/>You're making a value judgement by saying what they did/do is 'not ok', but it's perfectly ok in their worldview.<BR/><BR/>There's nothing wrong with you not liking what they did/do, but your claim that it's 'wrong' is fallaciousRimshothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704736086427919860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7896529.post-30811225169358632632007-12-03T11:06:00.000+00:002007-12-03T11:06:00.000+00:00awesome comments, everyone! (I knew this would ge...awesome comments, everyone! (I knew this would get the mental juices going and the keyboards clicking. I bet in all the excitement you almost forgot about me and the Pirate, didn't you??)<BR/><BR/>I can't take the time to respond to everyone, but I would like to say in response to Rimshot's comment that I've "already dismissed all world views that included a deity as unreasonable, thoughtless and irrational." While it's true that i do consider such world views as inherently slightly rediculous, there is a big difference between what sort of worldview you have and what you choose to do with it. Pirate is a devout Christian, for example. But he is also a thoughtful individual who thinks things through and behaves reasonably. Key word: BEHAVES. It's what you do that counts, less what you think. (I realize those concepts can't be completely separated from one another, but bear with me here.) In a free society you are allowed to think whatever you want, but there are laws to govern your actions. It's your actions, not your thoughts, that the rest of the community has to live with. So if you're Muslim and you're all huffy and offended by the name of a fucking teddy bear, fine; that's thinking, and that's your perogative. But you don't get to kill anyone over it. That's doing, and it's not ok. Everyone see the difference?Moominmamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11750304448922417139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7896529.post-11650098739781517672007-12-03T09:54:00.000+00:002007-12-03T09:54:00.000+00:00I will say this though, and I've said it before......I will say this though, and I've said it before... the opposite side of this ledger is that if you read an article critical of Islam in just about any newspaper in the western world today, and substitute "jew" for "muslim", you get a very scary picture.<BR/><BR/>Not all criticism levelled at Islam is warranted, and not all Muslims are illiteate extremists. <BR/><BR/>That said, much of the trouble in the world today can be laid squarely at the feet of the Extremist Warriors of The Religion of Peace and Tolerance.Chester The Bearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00651979110392209638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7896529.post-21604000895608792412007-12-02T19:43:00.000+00:002007-12-02T19:43:00.000+00:00Well said, CB!Well said, CB!Roghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09430706557035189147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7896529.post-1425261348793391542007-12-02T19:25:00.000+00:002007-12-02T19:25:00.000+00:00bollocks, they wanted a holiday to go see some of ...bollocks, they wanted a holiday to go see some of their family...jdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05755629961272105304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7896529.post-75115264434926324972007-12-02T19:24:00.000+00:002007-12-02T19:24:00.000+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00275198971395589717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7896529.post-21886695865539234682007-12-02T12:12:00.000+00:002007-12-02T12:12:00.000+00:00In fairness, the British Muslim community has acti...In fairness, the British Muslim community has actively condemned what Sudan has done to Mrs Gibbons - witness yesterday's demo in London and the visit by the 2 Muslim peers to Khartoum.GreatSheElephanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06589100964804729527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7896529.post-11243745902601132162007-12-02T01:29:00.000+00:002007-12-02T01:29:00.000+00:00"the media is a tool":-)*runs giggling, hiding the..."the media is a tool"<BR/><BR/><BR/>:-)<BR/><BR/><BR/>*runs giggling, hiding the crayons*Rimshothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704736086427919860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7896529.post-43225035803270514272007-12-02T00:53:00.000+00:002007-12-02T00:53:00.000+00:00widespread extremism has different roots. you coul...widespread extremism has different roots. you could put the name of any ideology in the space that 'moslem' occupies in this instance given the right social climate.<BR/>i'm pretty suspicious of the amount of attention the press is giving this story at this stage in time. this kind of idiocy and worse happens all the world over. but this particular story now? what about intolerant christians forcing moslem people to convert before they give them a job or a payraise? happens every day right up the road from where im sitting, in Lynden. remember...the media is a tool of government. history 101.FirstNationshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13387748372500478809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7896529.post-17313776606909964432007-12-01T23:08:00.000+00:002007-12-01T23:08:00.000+00:00Chester: I tend to think that civilization was an...Chester: I tend to think that civilization was and is borne out of the opposite of tolerance. That is to say when like-minded people gather in a commonality.Rimshothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704736086427919860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7896529.post-44285912762787690142007-12-01T16:09:00.000+00:002007-12-01T16:09:00.000+00:00death to aslan!err...death to aslan!<BR/><BR/>err...jdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05755629961272105304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7896529.post-75847043557575157442007-12-01T16:08:00.000+00:002007-12-01T16:08:00.000+00:00Death to people who critise Islam, the religion of...Death to people who critise Islam, the religion of peace!Frobisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139984461096994586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7896529.post-61239961389566234952007-12-01T05:42:00.000+00:002007-12-01T05:42:00.000+00:00Rimshot, the foundation of civilisation is toleran...Rimshot, the foundation of civilisation is tolerance.<BR/><BR/>Jesus, Moses and Mohamed play a central role in their respective religions. One is believed by his followers to be the Son of God. The other two are considered by their followers to be Prophets of the Word of God. I'm neither Christian nor Muslim, but I respect the beliefs of those who are, and I expect similar respect in return.<BR/><BR/>If a teacher in an Islamic school here in Australia, or anywhere else in the Western world, named a teddy bear "Jesus", would that teacher be arrested, threatened with a flogging, imprisoned and then deported? I don't think so. <BR/><BR/>There would be a small minority who would get upset, talk back radio switchboards will be jammed with people calling in to vent, and there'd be lead stories on the six o'clock news about insults, but that's about as far as it would go. Most of us would just take a deep breath, exhale and get on with our lives. There certainly wouldn't be raging mobs on the streets calling for her execution (as there was in Sudan today).<BR/><BR/>And if the they named a teddy bear "Moses", which would be a roughly Jewish equivalent, no-one... not even the most religious Jew, would even blink.<BR/><BR/>Islam needs to chill out and get a sense of humour. They need to get rid of that big chip on their collective shoulder.<BR/><BR/>And the double standard is breathtaking... Sudan is a country where a cleric can stand before his congregation and sprout the most vile antisemitism (go <A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2xnUTkxWjM" REL="nofollow">HERE</A> with impunity, even though, technically, this would place him in breach of the same Article 125 of the Sudanese Penal Code that's put Ms Gibbons in deep doo doo.<BR/><BR/>The so called religion of "peace and tolerance" has a great deal to answer for right now, and I, for one, would like to see them walk the talk.Chester The Bearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00651979110392209638noreply@blogger.com